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Ottawa fans attend CIS Final 8 dressed as empty seats?   

- March 21 2010

A couple tidbits over a late breakfast and the Syracuse-Gonzaga game. Thanks to CBS for pointing out a lot of Canadians go to sports events in Buffalo.

  • It is worth noting now: Our panel did six possible brackets, and four had Saskatchewan as the No. 2 seed and the other two had the Huskies third. No one put UBC higher.

  • TSN2 might have to make the whole crowd move to one side of Scotiabank Place for the Saskatchewan-UBC final. The attendance has been that sparse and now the host team has bounced.

There's never any one reason or excuse for a lukewarm turnout. Here's a few in random order:

  • The ripple of recession. Spending habits are always behind the economy. The economy has affected press row, so no reason that wouldn't be different up in the stands. There are the local sportswriters such as Wayne Kondro of the Ottawa Citizen and Dan Plouffe of the Orleans Star, but the only out-of-town print reporter I've seen is the Toronto Star's Doug Smith (and it's great the lead NBA writer at Canada's largest newspaper came!).

Only about 60% of CIS men's basketball coaches came; typically it's about 90%. UQAM was the lone team followed by a hometown radio crew (our friend Alex Tourigny from CHOQ-FM).

  • Blame Canada. This is more of a hypothetical thanks to our version of NCAA (some have joked CIS could be called the National Curmudgeons Against Athletes) won't allow scholarships. I'll say it: Do you think there would be 6,000 people at our national championship if some or all of the six Canadians playing in the Gonzaga-Syracuse game were all playing in CIS?

  • Timing. Why go out if you can watch the NCAA Tournament on TV? It's also March break.

  • Location, location, location. In Ottawa, you're breaking the fourth wall if you mention Scotiabank Place is so far from things such as the city centre, the nightlife, and after 4 p.m., people.

It is that much of a sore spot for the movers and shakers with the Senators and Capital Sports. The remoteness of SBP rears it head when there is less than 100% motivation for bandwagon fans. That has been the case this season with the Sennies (tied for sixth in the NHL's Eastern Conference). Carleton wasn't trying to extend a string of titles or get it back, and the Ottawa Gee-Gees missed the tourney.

  • Marketing. It always comes back to that, does it not?

  • Luck of the draw. One selling point for Ottawa was noting how many teams were within a reasonable driving distance. This season, the Gee-Gees missed the tournament. Lakehead and Windsor came from the OUA West, a far cry from having Brock and Western in 2008. The Quebec rep, UQAM, didn't seem to have a huge student section.

  • Typical Ottawa. Go ahead, say it.

Other thoughts:

  • Saskatchewan flat out deserved its 86-82 semifinal win over Carleton, executing Greg Jockims' game plan (make threes on offense, take the three-ball away from the Ravens, battle them to a draw on the boards) almost perfectly.

  • This is one Ontarian who is issuing a mea culpa to the Huskies, win or lose vs. UBC. The lead-horse phenomenon tends to kick in and for much of the season, that was the T-Birds.

  • The rub is it's close on Saturday if Carleton shoots 25% from three-point land. They were 1-for-16 from three, not counting a 30-some-footer Mike Kenny threw in at the buzzer.

  • The Huskies' Showron Glover is playing for a national title and his NCAA namesake Sherron Collins of Kansas is not. It was a rough Saturday for top seeds with ornithological nicknames, since the Jayhawks and Ravens each lost. (And yes, there is an Ottawa, Kansas.)

  • Canada West will have its first W.P. McGee Trophy since 2002 (the last time the Ravens were not in the tournament).

  • It was also the first time since 2000, Dave Smart's first season at the helm, that Carleton had a season-ending loss that was more than a one-possession game. They lost by two to Acadia in '08, by two to York in '02 and by a point on a buzzer shot vs. McMaster in '01.

  • Smart, the one who did call the Huskies "the best team here," was sanguine after his team's loss. "I went through the handshake line and I turned around and all 13 guys were picking up the (used) cups and putting them in the garbage. Maybe that's part of my problem, I need to recruit more pricks."

Smart always says it's about the character of the people associated with his Ravens, their willingness to be brutally honest with themselves. Championships and praise all just an off-shoot. Go ahead, be a cynic, but it's true. Carleton likely won't win five in a row again, but they will not quit, ever. A lot of teams would have when they were down 15 with 14 minutes left in the game.

Enjoy the game, friends.

14 Comments


TheJumpoff Apr 04 1:18 p.m.

The writer of this article is right about the Location of Scoitabank Place...out in the boondocks. I suggest tring the Ottawa Civic Centre. It's on Bank Street, convient for public transit and it is close by to numerous pubs and bars

The issue of scholarships is old and tired (especailly in OUA land). I watched Gonzaga v. Syracue in person in Buffalo. To me, the cost of me going to Buffalo to watch the NCAA tourney would be CHEAPER than going to watch the CIS finals in Ottawa I don't think the recession is partly to blame as you suggest.

As for turnout, well it is Ottawa, home of apathy.

Rick Apr 04 1:22 p.m.

Let me see, the opportunity to get a full ride and get an education at a school in Syracuse, NY/Spokane, WA or play at a CIS school, pay my own way for an education...that is a no-brainer...If the six Canadians were playing at a CIS school instead of the NCAA, I don't think it would increase attendance.

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kukson May 15 9:55 p.m.

Ottawa fans attend CIS final on 21 march 2010. A couple tidbits over a late breakfast and the Syracuse-Gonzaga game. There' was no any one reason or excuse for a lukewarm turnout at the CIS Final 8. alabama individual health insurance






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